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[Dylan]

For anyone who doesn't like sectarian rhetoric to spring its ugly head even more pronouncedly, we have to be careful of the more accentuated sectarian rhetoric.

Did you hear LBC's opening news remarks?
Murr's talk about just having 30 christian MP's being elected by christian votes?
Controversy about appointment of head of teh surete general...

Election law 2000 will only increase the feeling among christians that they have lost the war, and that they are being targeted... This will help to minimize the diffrences between them, and increase their allignment against the so-called "muslim hegemony" over the parliament (future, PSP, Amal, Hizballah)...

I know that the 2000 election law is unjust even more to the "left" in Lebanon (Habib Sadeq in the South for instance)... but the results of the religious perceptins maybe the most felt...

I think there has to be a clear promise by the wise and the level-headed that the next election will see a new election law that will prevent a re-formation of the "jabha watanieh" and "jabha lebnanieh" all over again... Even just a perception of one community that it is being marginalized is unhealthy in Lebanon...

[Condor]

well let me tell u somethign. They brought this on themselves like others. Have u seen the secterian hate that exploded after PM hariri assasination? everybody took part in it i.e LF, PSP, Aoun, future movement, Hizb, Amal etc... now they r paying the price. Lebanon was on the verge of war after the assasination of PM Hariri.

I always wondered as to how MP Ghinwa Jaloul hanged out with the hate monger MP Faris sa3id. I was never convinced with this opposition rhetoric of unity etc... nor with muwelet rhetoric. I mean how can each camp show hate toward the other camp while there is no internal hate within each camp? impossible. hating the other camp which is not composed of one party means there is internal hate within each camp since each camp is composed of many parties.

The opposition behaved as if they already won and that they controlled the country while the muwelet behaved as if they are really the losers. Both were wrong because they forgot this one simple fact: We will never rule ourselves. it is the outsiders who decide who win and who lose not us.

[Dylan]

Lets not react to what happened... but rather offer realistic solutions.

The reason that a qadaa election is unacceptable to "muslim" blocks (future, PSP, Amal, Hizballah) is that it gives around 60 MP's that are elected by christian voters, whereas the number of registered christian voters is much less.

Example: the number of registered voters per MP (registered voter/MP) in Nabatieh is 3 times that of Kesserwan...

On the other hand, this election law gives around 30 MP's that are voted in by majority christian votes...

What I propose is a redistribution of MP's close to the number of voters... The residual (that keeps a 50-50 muslim-christian parliament) can be voted in by proportional representation (with participation of Lebanese abroad in the proportional representation part).... Seems to me like a compromise along these general lines is not bad... And such a compromise can invlve an increase in the overall number of MP's so that it would not be too threatening to the existing MP's, and hense can be successfully voted in...

[Omega80]

Condor, man the more I read your posts the more it angers me. I disagree with 100% of things that you say.

A war after Hariri died? That was the greatest time in Lebanese history that the Lebanese were united...Every time we are starting to get somewhere, you come in and try to divide.

I wonder if you are one of the left over 3oumala that should have jumped on the Syrian trucks and left to Damasucus, because the more I listen to you the more I am certain that you only want to divide and not unite. All 3oumala's show their true colors eventually.

[Condor]

i c. So now i am an agent. This is typical Aounism. Blame everybody else except them.

u seem still living yesterday. Today is another day man. wake up. everythign changed. all camps are chattered. Be realistic and look what is happening today.

I am glad i am angering u. u and i are from different camps if i do not anger u means i am not in another camp. if u are pleased with me means u and i are in the same camp which is illogic since we are on opposite camps

. newton law. remeber.

also read here

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[Dylan]

Guys, enough over-caffienated reactions!!!!

If you think that there will be a more striking sectarian re-allignment, and you are worried about it, then offer some alternatives... some thoughtful realistic solutions that are not "hollier than thou" but are also not some lazy bunker-mentality "nkayet"!!

[Condor]

those who made lebanon long time knew what they were doing. This is lebanon and it will always be like that. There is no escape. 18 sects. The only issue is to keep it under control this is the challenge.

[Majd Libnan]

Originally Posted by Condor

well let me tell u somethign. They brought this on themselves like others. Have u seen the secterian hate that exploded after PM hariri assasination? everybody took part in it i.e LF, PSP, Aoun, future movement, Hizb, Amal etc... now they r paying the price. Lebanon was on the verge of war after the assasination of PM Hariri.

I always wondered as to how MP Ghinwa Jaloul hanged out with the hate monger MP Faris sa3id. I was never convinced with this opposition rhetoric of unity etc... nor with muwelet rhetoric. I mean how can each camp show hate toward the other camp while there is no internal hate within each camp? impossible. hating the other camp which is not composed of one party means there is internal hate within each camp since each camp is composed of many parties.

The opposition behaved as if they already won and that they controlled the country while the muwelet behaved as if they are really the losers. Both were wrong because they forgot this one simple fact: We will never rule ourselves. it is the outsiders who decide who win and who lose not us.

How old are you condor?

[Condor]

10? let me check my passport.

[Condor]

why does it bother you to show the truth and stop laughing at each other? if we do not know the reality then hjow can come up with solutions? I mean now the LBC is saying there is some kind of repressive feeling among christians while FTV still sings for unity. I think LBC is more realistic now and FTV is living in mars. There is a problem now the chritians feeling they are repressed. Let them face it.